Hyatt Regency Maui – Hotel Review

image from the Hyatt Regency Maui website

Destination: Lahaina, Hawai'i on the island of Maui
Date: February 2017
Hotel: Hyatt Regency Maui Resort and Spa
Address: 200 Nohea Kai Dr, Lahaina, HI 96761
Brand: Hyatt
Elite Status: globalist (first tier, nothing)
# of travelers: 2
nights: 1

Making the Decision

Given that we were leaving Maui via the Expedition ferry, I decided to book a night in Lahaina. I admit that the grotto bar, the animals located on the property, and the beachside shaved ice stand definitely influenced my hotel pick. Also, I've had pretty great experiences staying with Hyatt. As it turns out, this stay was no different; it definitely exceeded my expectations!

Getting There

Knowing that Lahaina was all the way on the west side of the island, my husband and I spent the day driving from Wailea to Lahaina making stops along the way, specifically at the Maui Ocean Center located between the two hotels. The total drive time between Wailea and Lahaina is almost an hour. This is pretty much the same drive time as what you would expect from the OGG airport as well.

Alternates?

– The Kapalua airport (JHM) is much closer. You are looking at a 15-minute drive.
– If you arrive via the Expeditions Ferry service, you are also quite close to Lahaina.
– I do not recommend arriving at the Hana Airport (HNM) unless you have a few days to spare. If you do, you will want at least one overnight stay in Hana and plenty of time to make the long, arduous journey between Hana and the rest of the island. And, if you do make that journey, I encourage you to fly out a different airport – JHM or OGG. Travel time between Lahaina and Hana is at a minimum of three hours but will likely take much longer.

It should be noted that should you choose to go carless, you will be fine. You won't be able to see much of the island, but you will have plenty to do! Long beach days, tours to Hana, taxis, the city of Lahaina, and luaus will all be easily accessible. A car is not needed unless you want one.

Checking-In & Parking

Not quite as fast and seamless as the Grand Wailea, checking in at the Hyatt Regency Maui was still fairly easy. The valet helped us remove our luggage from the car and directed us to the front desk where we only waited a few minutes before being checked in. Noting that it was our fifth anniversary, they upgraded us to a partial ocean view with lanai (porch), then lei'd (flowers for men and women) us before the bellhop showed us to our room.

It should be noted that self-parking is $20 a day (as of this posting) and valet parking is $30 a day. Because we were Hyatt members, they gave us valet parking at the cost of self-parking. This is, of course, one instance where your mileage may vary.

The Lobby

Before heading to our room, I made sure to check out the gorgeous indoor/outdoor lobby of the Hyatt Regency. Much like the Grand Wailea, the Hyatt Regency lobby is gorgeously decorated with lush flowers, trees, and plants as well as statues. It was absolutely beautiful and definitely a place I would consider lingering if I had the time. Unfortunately (or fortunately?), I had filled every second of our trip to the max so there would be no lingering in this hotel lobby or any lobby, for that matter, on our trip.

Hotel Room, Bathroom, View

Our room at the Hyatt Regency Maui felt huge with a king bed at one end of the space, a couch, some chairs, and a tv at the other, and a lanai with a table and chairs where we could sit outside and enjoy the beautiful Maui weather!

The bathroom, while not as big as the Grand Wailea, was still a decent size. I loved that the sink was located outside of the closed off toilet and shower making it easy for one person to brush their teeth, comb their hair, put on makeup, etc… while the other could be in the actual bathroom. I also loved that the sink, while not in the bathroom proper, had a wall between it and the actual bedroom. It makes the bedroom feel homier and less hotel-like when the sink isn't within view of the bed.

For your convenience, the hotel offered soap, shampoo, and conditioner as well as a hairdryer, iron and ironing board, fridge, bathrobes, a coffee maker, self-serve laundry (I did not see it), dry cleaning options, and a shuttle to take you to Lahaina for $3.

As for the view? Well, words defy. Just check out the picture:

Green Options

I absolutely loved this hotel's focus on going green. At check-in, if you are staying more than one day, you have the options of getting Hyatt points instead of clean linens. If you are ok sleeping on the same sheets for night two or reusing your towels, you get free points! And, when you enter your room, you will find two free reusable water bottles (possibly one depending on how many people are in your party) that you can use during your stay and keep when you leave! How easy is that for encouraging people to go green! <3.

Amenities

The grounds of the Hyatt Regency our pretty amazing. You could easily spend hours walking around exploring. They have beautiful pools with a grotto bar and a hot tub for soaking your worries away, a peaceful beach within walking distance, animals roaming the property including flamingos, swans, penguins, and other birds, a spa, a gym, and a gift shop.

The hotel offers lots of activities to keep you busy. Enjoy a wildlife tour three days a week at 10am, stargaze nightly (with or without the youngins), watch a penguin feeding, spot whales between December and March off the coast of Ka’anapali Beach, or take in a luau. Other cultural activities they offer include classes on lei making, lauhala bracelet making, and hula dancing.

Food Options

Of course, one of my favorite offerings found at Hyatt Regency Maui is the delicious shaved ice you can find on the beach property of the hotel made by Ulalanis. Yum! Be sure to get it with ice cream, condensed milk, and mochi! (It's the Hawai'ian way.)





We also enjoyed a dessert following our luau at Old Lahaina Luau at the hotel's restaurant Japengo. We ordered the flaming piña colada créme which, of course, came out on fire.

Check Out

Check out was quick and painless. We did have to wait a bit for our car to arrive, though. It was only frustrating because we were in a hurry to return our rental and get to the ferry on time. We ended up being a little late, but I called and was told it would be ok. *sigh of relief*

Overall Review
★★★★★ (one of the best)

Easily a four-star hotel, potentially five, I quickly fell in love with the Hyatt Regency Maui Resort and Spa. The property was absolutely amazing to explore, the rooms were huge with comfortable beds, the lei'ing definitely gave off a very Hawai'ian vibe, and I loved the green options the hotel provided. Who doesn't want to feel good about protecting the environment? The only negative I have for this hotel is that it is a little dated looking. But aside from that, I would definitely stay here again. In fact, I would relish the opportunity to explore the property even further! Hyatt did a great job with this hotel and if you ever find yourself in the Lahaina area, I'd suggest checking this beauty out to see if it's a good fit for you and your family!

Your Turn

What is the most unique thing you have ever seen a hotel do in an effort to protect the evironment? Would you be interested in staying at a hotel where anials roam freely on the property?

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It's day eight in the A-Z blog challenge! This month I'll be sharing all about my five year anniversary in Hawai'i – providing insight into the places I went, reviewing the hotels I stayed at, and telling my story. Today's letter was H for the Hyatt Regency Maui Resort and Spa in Lahaina, Hawai'i on Maui Island!

A • B • C • D • E (pt 1, 2, 3) • F • G

Hyatt Regency – Jersey City, New Jersey

It's day twenty (for me) in the A-Z blog challenge! This month I'll be sharing all about my Christmas/New Year travels in NYC and Europe – providing insight into the places I went, reviewing the hotels I stayed at, and telling my story. Today's letters are X and Y for the Exuberant and Youthful Hyatt Regency in Jersey City. Feel free to follow along as I make my way through the alphabet! Only one more day left! :)

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Destination: Jersey City, New Jersey
Date: January 2016
Hotel: Hyatt Regency Jersey City
Brand: Hyatt
Elite Status: Platinum
# of travelers: 2
nights: 1

Hotel: Making the Decision

Out of all of the hotels I stayed at in New York City during the holidays, choosing the Hyatt Regency in Jersey City was one of the easiest and most complicated hotel decisions I made. For one, I was looking for hotels with Christmas trees and views, but I was also trying to save money. At the point in which I booked this hotel, I had myself convinced that I would be staying 2 nights in both NYC and Paris for free and paying for one night; then I just had to decide which night would I be paying for?

Many variety of Hyatts, just like in Paris, were recommended for NYC. People on the travel forums that I look at for advice suggested staying in the financial district or at Chelsea… But when I looked on Tripadvisor, none of these expensive, point costly hotels offered any of the things I was after – mainly a view. When I spotted the Hyatt Regency in Jersey City and began researching it, I discovered that I could get a view for nearly half the points (15,000 vs. 30,000) and a view if I was willing to stay outside of the city. Considering my husband and I would be flying back home from EWR, this didn't seem like such a bad idea. The biggest complications we would run into would include getting in and out of the city; I figured for one day we could handle that.

So, the decision was made. 15,000 points from our Chase Ultimate Rewards account was transferred and we were guaranteed a room in Jersey City. And if we were lucky, we'd find ourselves with a sweet view! :)

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Getting There/Location

Getting to the Hyatt Regency ended up being incredibly complicated. My husband and I took a bus from JFK to EWR and then cabbed over to our hotel. I think it took nearly 2 hours or more? It was ridiculous. I don't even know that it saved us money.

HOWEVER, you will be glad to know that the Hyatt Regency is located right next to the Jersey subway (PATH). And even better, PATH connects easily to the NYC subway (MTA). In fact, you can buy tickets for both at the one station (Exchange Place).

Another option: because the hotel is right on the Hudson River, you can take the ferry from Manhattan to Jersey City. A fun experience for the kids and certainly a different way to arrive to the hotel than the usual!

Cabs may or may not be an option for you. According to what I've read online, cabs from LGA and JFK don't have a set price for going into New Jersey. Usually the route is very long, crosses under a tunnel, and has a toll. Some cab drivers will work out a deal with you, but you will have to figure this out before leaving the airport. Uber or Lyft might be better options, but they could still be costly.

If you are a good planner and nervous about having transportation, the Hyatt Regency offers a car that you can reserve to pick you up up from EWR or take you there. My husband and I paid a flat fee of $70 for the service, but we were glad to know that when we woke up the next morning a car would be there waiting for us and we wouldn't be 1) ripped off (because we knew the fee upfront) and 2) late to the airport for our early morning flight home.

NYC also offers various buses to get around the city (which you could take to the subway, ferry, or airport), or you could potential rent or drive your own car for a $38 overnight parking fee.

Because Jersey City and NYC are so close to one another, you have a plethora of options to consider. It really just comes down to what is best for you and the people you are traveling with.

Checking In & Porter

When my husband and I arrived to the hotel, exhausted from a full day of transporting, we were crazy happy when the porter took our luggage from us so that we could check in. He went up an elevator around the corner, that we couldn't see from where we were, and we went up an escalator to the front desk. We were warmly greeted by the staff who helped us get situated as quickly as possible. The sun was setting outside and, with views of the sunset over the Hudson, I was desperate to get to a position where I could photograph the last bits of light before it disappeared over the horizon.

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Room, View, Amenities

When we finally got to our room, I threw my handbag down and flew to the window. We had received an upgrade as Hyatt Platinum members, so our window view was looking out over the Hudson River at the Manhattan skyline. We had a couch on which I could perch as I shot picture after picture of our amazing view.

The room itself wasn't half bad either. We had a king bed big enough for … well, a king. :) And the room was a decent size too. We felt as though we could spread out and be comfortable. Even the furnishings were nice and updated. Even though we were staying uncomfortably outside of the New York City limits, our room and view definitely made up for it.

After showers using hotel provided shampoo, soap, and conditioner, in a desperate attempt to wake up, the porter finally arrived with our luggage. It's not that he had taken his time, but it was more that we were in a hurry to get out and enjoy the rest of our night in the city. Plus, we had to buy a bag from Macy's before they closed!

So off we went! :)

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Lobby & Bar

At the end of the night, before retiring to our room, despite how tired we were, I asked Justin if we could get a drink from the bar and enjoy the lit up Manhattan skyline from the hotel lobby. Justin agreed, so that's just what we did. :)

He ordered a local beer and I ordered a lime rickey. We just sat for… well, as long as we could keep our eyes open, drinking, and, every now and then, talking about our whole experience of traveling to all of the places in the two weeks following Christmas. Overall we had a wonderful time and this chance of taking the opportunity to drink yummy drinks while looking at the night skyline gave us the chance to relax and reflect on that before we headed back home and into a crazy, work week.

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Ballroom & Balcony View

As we got into the elevator to head to our room, rather than press the number for the lower level that our hotel room was actually on, I asked Justin if we could go to the floor directly above ours, the highest one, just to see. :) Being Justin, he said yes and up we went!

We weren't too impressed when we got off the elevator. There were chairs and tables galore and the room looked fairly unused. We walked up next to the windows, as close as we could get, and marveled at the various views from the different sides of the hotel, some of which were views of the Hudson River and Manhattan skyline that we couldn't see from our room.

Then, Justin found a door that led to a balcony! Afraid we'd get locked out, we tested the door first. One of us went outside while the other stayed inside: would it work? In fact, yes it did! :) So on a chilly night in December Justin and I ventured out onto the balcony of Hyatt Regency Jersey City and received a marvelous 180º view of the Hudson River and Manhattan skyline. With the weather so nice that night, we almost didn't want to go in. However, I was desperate for pictures, and both my DSLR and Nexus 6 (to get a 360º view) were in the hotel room; I asked Justin if we could go get them.

Leaving the balcony for our cameras was where we made the mistake. I'm not sure if we had gotten in just the right elevator to get to that top floor or what, but, after collecting our camera equipment, when we pressed the button again, the elevator didn't go anywhere. :( And so we went looking for stairs only to find the top level locked for every door we tried. Apparently we had one opportunity to see that fantastic view, and that opportunity was now over. Time for bed.

Check Out

Come the next morning, as you can imagine, we didn't want to wake up. Luckily, we didn't have to wait any time for a taxi since we had reserved the hotel car to take us to EWR that morning. From the cab, I sadly watched as the sun rose and I was, yet again, not in a position for photographing it.

When we got to the airport, we pulled out croissants we had bought the night before from a vendor near Bryant Park the night before and grabbed some Starbucks to drink at LGA. The whole experience was quick and easy.

In fact, we were boarding the plane ready to return home in hardly any time at all. Our 17 day adventure had finally come to an end.

Overall Review
★★★★(above average)

The Hyatt Regency Jersey City went above and beyond my expectations by giving us an unexpected room with a view on a high floor. Unknowingly they also gave us the opportunity to see the Manhattan skyline from the balcony of the hotel, which only added to our enjoyment of staying here. We also really liked the size of the room and the bar's location next to panoramic views of the Hudson River and Manhattan skyline. The hotel was also really close to the subway making it super easy to access public transportation. And when public transportation just wouldn't do, they had a driver you could schedule to take you to the airport. Altogether, the hotel seemed to have thought of everything! I truly can't imagine a better experience from this hotel … aside from …

The hotel didn't offer breakfast … or free drinks … or much of anything.

Yes, I understand that I'm spoiled. :) I also understand that I've probably already paid for those little extras when I get them, but… they are nice. They add to the overall customer experience. They make me feel special. :)

(And don't tell me you have to be Hyatt Platinum to get free breakfast. I already knew that!)

Also, the hotel was located outside of the city limits. It didn't really affect my stay here, but given the length of time it can take to get from Jersey City to Manhattan, I could see how this could be a (small) problem.

Would I recommend this hotel?

Absolutely! In fact, I anticipate returning here in the summer and potentially watching the July 4th fireworks while there. It's a fantastic hotel, and I don't say that lightly. With a free breakfast, I would have definitely given this hotel a 5 star rating!

Your Turn

Have you ever considered staying at a hotel slightly outside the city limits of a place you are visiting just so that you can pay less? If so, was it a good experience or did you wish you had been closer? If not, would you consider doing it in the future? Does easy access to public transportation play a role in where you choose to book hotels?

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Grand Hyatt – Washington D.C.

image from Justin in SD

Destination: Washington D.C.
Date: October 2014
Hotel: Grand Hyatt
Brand: Hyatt
Status: none
# of travelers: 2

Hotel & Brand – Making the Decision

In September I began following airline deal sites a bit more closely. Perhaps I had more time on my hands? I don't know. But through following the numerous travel blogs more closely I spotted a deal that I knew Justin would love. Truthfully, I was seeking out deals to travel to NYC (and/or Boston) around Christmas time in 2015, which is something I'm still hoping to find, but during this particular search I instead discovered a flight at a decent price to Washington DC so long as we went in either October or November 2014.

While a flight to DC and visiting the vast city on it's own is enough to encourage me to purchase tickets, knowing that Justin had friends living in the area who had come to our wedding two years prior that we had never gone to visit was just the push Justin needed to convince him to purchase. A few phone calls, text messages, and a bit of research later, we had a flight and visit planned without a hotel to stay at.

At first I searched in the DC area for hotels where I had status, specifically IHG, Hilton, and Club Carlson. All of the IHG hotels were full, the Hilton hotels were expensive, and I couldn't find any Club Carlson hotels I wanted to try. The only hotel that truly peaked my interest, within my price range, was the Grand Hyatt. Google searches featuring the gorgeous lobby were enough to convince me to sign up for the Hyatt credit card and attempt to gain status quickly prior to our trip just so that I could stay in this beautiful hotel. (Note: It did not work, and I did not gain status prior to traveling.)

Getting There & Getting Around the City – Public Transportation Options

image from Wikimedia Commons

Finally! This section finally can be applied toward a US hotel!

Justin and I flew into Washington Dulles airport arriving around 3PM that particular Friday. We had originally discussed renting a car, but we didn't want to deal with DC traffic or paying for parking both inside the city and at the hotel. We decided that if, for any reason, we needed to travel by car we could use Uber. As it turns out, this back up plan was completely unnecessary and our travel to the hotel was completely seamless. Upon leaving Dulles airport, we took the Silver Line Express bus to the Wiehle-Reston East Metro Statio. After boarding the metro, we rode for approximately 30 minutes until we reached the Metro Center Station. If you follow the exit for 11th street, you don't even have to exit the metro station before you are entering the hotel. Seriously! They are practically one unit! And to make transportation to and from the hotel even easier, in 2015 they are planning to open the silver line as part of the metro meaning you will be able to get off the metro at Washington Dulles airport (or take the silver line from Dulles into the city) without worrying about the bus! How awesome is that?!?

Once you're in DC, getting around via the Metro is super easy. The Metro Center Station is pretty much, as is indicated by the name, the center of the city's metro transportation system. Anywhere you need to go can be reached easily by the metro. It is worth noting however that the red line was only coming through every 30 minutes the weekend that Justin and I were in the city. The wait was frustrating enough to make you consider walking to your destination or taking a different train hoping you could get to your destination in a more roundabout way. The further out of the city you get (we went out to Virginia via the Metro), the earlier the stations close, so plan accordingly.

Obviously DC has plenty of other transportation options I have not already mentioned including busses, taxis, Uber, etcetera. If you are in fantastic shape, you can walk pretty much anywhere your heart desires. The Grand Hyatt is pretty close to almost everything.

The Lobby, Checking In, & Public Spaces

from the Grand Hyatt facebook page

When we first entered the hotel, I realized that the images online of the gorgeous lobby were every bit true to what I was seeing. The ground floor had a gorgeous fountain and (indoor) trees were scattered throughout giving the hotel lobby an outdoor feel. At first it was very welcoming since Justin and I had spent the better part of 4 hours (or so) in metro stations, busses, and the airport without getting any view of the outside. But let me tell you that the moment I finally got to see the real outside, from my room, I felt a bit of freedom. I had never felt as claustrophobic as I did through this traveling experience. When had booked the hotel, I had booked a room with a view of the lobby, but I was incredibly grateful that they did not honor that request. As gorgeous as the lobby was, my view of the city was what I needed on that day more so than any other.

The lady checking us in was very nice and helpful. She offered to provide us with a map and talked with us a bit about how to navigate the metro. As we left to go to our room, we noticed an area off to the side with fruit infused water and some cups, a welcome site for the weary traveler. Unfortunately, as we came to notice about DC, the water there tastes very different from the water we are used to. We drank very little DC water afterwards.

There were a large number of people sitting around the lobby working on their laptop, talking, and spending time with their families. It very much seemed like the inside of a public building, perhaps best described as similar to a university building lobby, office lobby for a building with a lot of offices, or mall food court. On one side of the lobby, you could check in to the hotel, go to your room, etc, etc… It was very hotel oriented. The other side of the lobby, separated by a hole in the floor that you could walk around and view the fountain below (architecture people, what is that called?) were eating areas including a restaurant (not the hotel's), a Starbucks, and a deli. Justin and I tried all three, which I will review in a bit. :) There were also two hotel gift shops located on this floor.

If you took the escalator downstairs, you could eat at the hotel's restaurant, work out in the gym, or visit the business center to use the internet or print. (Using the internet and printing both cost.)

Price, Rooms, Status, & View

image from Grand Hyatt Hotel website

When I booked the Grand Hyatt, I indicated I want a room on a high floor. The room we were put in was pretty high up in the back corner of the building. We had a view of the city, which was nice and I was thrilled to be able to see the tiniest bit of sunset from our room as we got situated upon arrival. The room we stayed in was surprisingly large. As I mentioned it was a corner room, but the layout was shaped like a pentagon providing plenty of space. Despite not having status, I would not be surprised if we were given one of the larger (regular) rooms in the hotel. We had access to a desk, tv, and a few chairs in the room. Even the bathroom, which contained soaps, lotions, and hair dryer, was pretty big.

The price Justin and I paid was through our Costco membership which only gave us approximately a $5 discount off the regular price. Overall I felt the prices were reasonable compared to other options in the area. (Obviously, I would always prefer to pay less for more, but you can't always get that.) One option if you are looking to stay at this hotel would be to obtain the Hyatt credit card. The Hyatt credit card gets you one free night at a hotel (pretty sure this one is included, but be sure to check before taking my word) and status. At this particular hotel status gets you a larger room on the 12th floor as well as access to free breakfast and food throughout the day (like water and snacks). If you take advantage of those offers, you can make this hotel become incredibly affordable (much more than I was able to).

Even if you get this hotel at a great price, the view is not of a beautiful beach or magnificent skyline. You will either see the atrium from your room … or DC office buildings. It's not a bad view, but it's not a great one either. (Is there a place in DC to get a really great view?)

Disability Access, Parking, & Pool

Unfortunately, my husband and I were so busy the weekend we spent in DC that I didn't get a chance to think about or check out any of these things. I want to say that the hotel is easily accessible, but I seem to remember always having a few steps when entering the hotel. After entering, you can use all of the elevators you want, but I simply can't remember entering the hotel without steps. We also didn't check out the indoor pool or parking, because we didn't use either of these things.

Where to Get Food in the Hotel

image from Grand Hyatt Hotel website

- If you attempt to buy water from the vending machine, do not balk at the $2 price. Surprisingly, that is a good price at this hotel. You will find that water bottles only get more expensive as you venture down to the lobby to Starbucks or the Deli where prices are more like $2.75 for a water bottle. Crazy!

- The Cure Bar & Bistro is where Justin and I had our first dinner in DC. After a busy day of traveling, we just wanted to get to where we were going. The Cure Bar & Bistro had a few things going for it: the (online) menu looked good, the setting (from what we could see of the fireplace and bar) was pretty, we were hungry, and (most importantly) it was right there in our hotel, in front of us. The other restaurants scattered across the DC area could not compete in our moment of hunger. And surprisingly, despite being over priced, the food was fantastic (to a hungry person). We were able to charge the food to our room and then we went out on our merry way to visit friends.

- On Saturday morning we had Starbucks coffee (well, Justin did) and croissants. Unlike other Starbucks locations, this one did not heat up our croissants. *sadness* Other than that, this Starbucks was exactly what you would expect from one. Go there if that's what you want. (And use a Starbucks card to get stars. Rewards are fun.)

- I do not recommend eating at the Zephyr Deli for breakfast, which is what we ate on Sunday before our flight. Your food choices are incredibly limited, the prices are pretty high, and the food does not taste that good. I had a cherry danish in which I ate all but the cherry. Justin had a larger breakfast with like eggs or something which I also tried and hated. Yuck, yuck, yuck. Maybe go there for lunch, but do yourself a favor and have breakfast at the airport … or anywhere else but here.

- The Grand Café looked beautiful from above, but we decided against trying it for breakfast since I had heard it was expensive without many breakfast choices. (I don't know anything about their lunch or dinner options, if they have any.) After our experience with the deli, we may consider trying it in the future.

Overall Review

image from Jeff Smallwood

★★★★ (above average)

There was very little about this hotel I disliked. With status, this could be a fantastic little hotel on par in many ways with the Holiday Inn Resort in Panama City Beach (perhaps better!). The food options in the hotel were nice and I enjoyed being so close to the metro. The rooms were large and spacious giving us plenty of room to spread out. Even the hotel staff was incredibly courteous and helpful with whatever we needed. I highly recommend this hotel to DC travelers who want everything right there at their fingertips.

Your Turn

Have you ever stayed at a Hyatt before? Would you consider visiting the Grand Hyatt in DC? Do you have any other questions about this hotel that I can answer for you? Share! I'd love to hear what you think about this hotel, other Hyatt's, or any I should consider staying at in the DC area in the future!